Not many. Most think that she's a weirdo playing victim. An apostate.
But if one says, he was in the Sea Org many years and left because some are ruining his religion Scientology within the organization, that's when people listen. If somebody of the own faith says that something is wrong inside of the organization, the apostate part breaks away...
Anonymous, critics, apostates are not a huge problem for DM, but those who continue to practice Scientology and say that DM isn't good, that's something else...
Not many. Most think that she's a weirdo playing victim. An apostate.
But if one says, he was in the Sea Org many years and left because some are ruining his religion Scientology within the organization, that's when people listen. If somebody of the own faith says that something is wrong inside of the organization, the apostate part breaks away...
Anonymous, critics, apostates are not a huge problem for DM, but those who continue to practice Scientology and say that DM isn't good, that's something else...
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On Mar 11, 10:22 pm, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> Not many. Most think that she's a weirdo playing victim. An apostate.
> But if one says, he was in the Sea Org many years and left because some > are ruining his religion Scientology within the organization, that's when > people listen. If somebody of the own faith says that something is wrong > inside of the organization, the apostate part breaks away...
> Anonymous, critics, apostates are not a huge problem for DM, but those who > continue to practice Scientology and say that DM isn't good, that's > something else...
You are missing the point that the more noise there is in the press about Scientology the fewer uninformed fresh meat are available for the Stress Test of Ruin.
On 12 mrt, 04:22, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> Not many. Most think that she's a weirdo playing victim. An apostate.
> But if one says, he was in the Sea Org many years and left because some > are ruining his religion Scientology within the organization, that's when > people listen. If somebody of the own faith says that something is wrong > inside of the organization, the apostate part breaks away...
> Anonymous, critics, apostates are not a huge problem for DM, but those who > continue to practice Scientology and say that DM isn't good, that's > something else...
Keyword is "was". He or she can be trusted more than an idiot who is still in and who posts anonymous through a remailer to keep his identity hidden. Can you say "chicken"?
On 12 mar, 04:22, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> Not many. Most think that she's a weirdo playing victim. An apostate.
> But if one says, he was in the Sea Org many years and left because some > are ruining his religion Scientology within the organization, that's when > people listen. If somebody of the own faith says that something is wrong > inside of the organization, the apostate part breaks away...
> Anonymous, critics, apostates are not a huge problem for DM, but those who > continue to practice Scientology and say that DM isn't good, that's > something else...
To leave and say NO to a criminal organization in public is courage because victims of crime don't have to do a shit because they won't do the same error again and say YES to confidence tricksters making the length of time in the criminal organizations grasp inessentially.
nob...@dizum.com wrote: > But if one says, he was in the Sea Org many years and left because some > are ruining his religion Scientology within the organization, that's when > people listen. If somebody of the own faith says that something is wrong > inside of the organization, the apostate part breaks away.
I take your point, but I think you are missing the full significance of what is happening.
Freezoners have been leaving the CoS for decades, keeping quiet and building networks. If they had spoken up the cult would have gone after them and destroyed them, as it did to other groups.
Now however with the cult severely weakened by outside forces they can speak up, and so can those coming out from CoS management (the Freezoners were mostly idealists, not leaders).
This has two effects. Firstly it weakens the outside preconception that cults cannot have heretics, that anyone who leaves 'Scientology' is obviously no longer a 'Scientologist'. Secondly, it provides a convenient scapegoat - heretics can blame Miscavige for everything without having to think for themselves about Scientology.
> nob...@dizum.com wrote: > > But if one says, he was in the Sea Org many years and left because some > > are ruining his religion Scientology within the organization, that's when > > people listen. If somebody of the own faith says that something is wrong > > inside of the organization, the apostate part breaks away.
> I take your point, but I think you are missing the full significance of > what is happening.
> Freezoners have been leaving the CoS for decades, keeping quiet and > building networks. If they had spoken up the cult would have gone after > them and destroyed them, as it did to other groups.
> Now however with the cult severely weakened by outside forces they can > speak up, and so can those coming out from CoS management (the Freezoners > were mostly idealists, not leaders).
> This has two effects. Firstly it weakens the outside preconception that > cults cannot have heretics, that anyone who leaves 'Scientology' is > obviously no longer a 'Scientologist'. Secondly, it provides a convenient > scapegoat - heretics can blame Miscavige for everything without having to > think for themselves about Scientology.
You're giving Anonymous much too much credit, Hartley. They are just noise. The guys directly under Miscavige, his right and left hand blew and unified without him. That's the ultimate nightmare of Miscavige. He's afraid of his former cardinals but not of Anonymous. Nobody takes Anons seriously and most Independents don't want to be associated with Anonymous.
Auto491...@hushmail.com wrote: > You're giving Anonymous much too much credit, Hartley. They are just > noise.
There are plenty of cult members who have left because of Anonymous. The cult is dying. CoS(UK) is Hiding.
> The guys directly under Miscavige, his right and left hand blew > and unified without him. That's the ultimate nightmare of Miscavige.
It is, but they ran away instead of confronting him. None of them have confronted him. Not ONE SINGLE so called Scientologist has had the bottle to tell him he's a wanker to his face.
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